You are correct in saying that preserving is not creating but creating is useless if it is not preserved and built upon. When Rome disintegrated monks preserved Plato, a disaster for free thought, and ignored Aristotle. Paul preserved, and some say created, the idea of Christ. Preservation has varying degrees of impact on history. On the list of blockbuster ideas the Mesopotamian sky god culture isn't even a blip. Islam, Judaism and Christianity all admit that they flow from Abraham and all have been infused with pagan ideas from the Greeks and Romans to the Bedouins in the desert. Prophets cross the lines drawn between religions but hardliners preserve the line not the flow of thoughts. Think doppelganger. Eric Yost <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>why this disengagement by westerners from recognizing Islam as a major contributor to what the west has become? Quick response: preservation is not creation. Preserving Aristotle is not the same as originating Aristotle. Further, Mesopotamian sky god cultures are based in the notion of God or Allah being the source of all knowledge. All wisdom comes from the Lord, as the Bible says. Hellenistic culture (and by extension Roman culture) is based in the notion that an individual can ask the universe questions (empirical experiment) and the universe will disclose its secrets without the sky god's mediation by priests or sacred books. Remember that the Stoics coined the term "universe." The Stoics also promoted equality of the sexes and an end to slavery as early as 300 BCE. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com