>As to what ``computable'' means, my understanding is that it >means computable by a computer or a Turing machine or the >equivalent. See: But the conclusion that Wolfram makes in his book is that the universe is NOT computable in anything but real time. So... if it IS being computed, it must be by something that exists extra-universe. That's a completely un-provable scenario so who gives a shit. It might as well be religion. ;-) paul ****************** Paul Stone pas@xxxxxxxx Leamington, ON ****************** ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html