[lit-ideas] Re: a little more on books

  • From: "Veronica Caley" <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:50:39 -0400

Yes, thank you, finally.  After a new doctor and getting off of some medication 
on which I could barely stay awake.
Also, when I finally got a diagnosis I started on the road to recovery but it 
takes a long time.

Veronica

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Julie Krueger 
  To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:21 PM
  Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: a little more on books


  I wondered where you had gone...are you all right now??


  On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Veronica Caley <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    Hi there,

    I am back after a two year illness.  The bit about Duck went to my husband 
by someone using my computer but I agree with it.

    This refers to an article in the New York Times about an animal processing 
plant in Iowa.  They arrested a number of illegal immigrants from Guatemala who 
had Social Security numbers that had belonged to Americans.  The Guatemalans 
will most likely be deported after a short jail term.  The plant owners will 
most likely get a slap on the wrist.  The plant is owned by an Orthodox Jewish 
community with a rabbi in charge, supervising the processing of kosher meat.

    The article said that the animals had their wind pipes removed while still 
alive.  Hence the reference to the Humane Society.  The whole article was very 
disturbing, 
    as it ought to be.  Also, I don't think there really are kosher Jews, just 
Jews who keep kosher.  Ah, the fingers are faster than the brain, as is 
sometimes the mouth.

    Veronica
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Julie Krueger 
      To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 2:48 PM
      Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: a little more on books


      Now that's one of the more eye-catching posts of late .... I'm dying to 
know what the "this" is about which you are of several minds.  It sounds 
potential fascinating.

      Julie Krueger


      On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Veronica Caley <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

        Hi Duck,

        Thanks for sharing. I am of several minds about this.  On the one hand, 
I would like these immigrants to be returned to their countries to prevent more 
of them coming.  Also, I would like to see the company fined heftily, 
especially a religious organization owns it.  I hope kosher Jews rise up en 
masse.  And I wonder why there is not a person from the human society is not 
stationed in these factories.  Very upsetting.  Also, I don't believe that none 
of the immigrants knew what a soc. sec. no. means, but if they didn't, even so, 
do we want our numbers circulated more than they already are for banking, etc.?
        BR
        ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Yost" <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx> 

        To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

        Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 4:00 PM 

        Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: a little more on books



          Mike: I believe that I would keep such information as secret as I 
could just because I wouldn't want to be wrapped up in the Cling Wrap of pity 
and stored safely away from the give and take of relationships.


          When my father learned that he was dying, he waited a week before 
telling me. I'm glad he told me so quickly. Far from creating a "wrap of pity", 
his decision allowed him to convene a series of family meetings that enabled us 
to understand his wishes and carry them out. I was able to give him home 
hospice care and take care of him in the final months. I held his hand as he 
died. Among other things, his prompt honesty gave me the comfort of knowing 
that I had honored him with my best efforts to fulfill his wishes.

          Given my personal experience, the "keep 'em in the dark" method 
strikes me as a final insult to the living. After all, one's parents are long 
aware of, and present at, one's birth ... so why should one be denied the 
loving respect of presence in things turning full circle?

          A cheerful rapidly-aging mammal,
          Eric



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