And on understanding We are analysing Wittgenstein: "My propositions are elucidatory in this way: he who understands me finally recognizes them as senseless". McEvoy: "I suggest his point of view, tenable or not, is more straightforwardly understood without distinguishing propositions and the act of saying:- his point of view is that in examining what gives a proposition 'sense', we find that the correct criterion of sense does not satisfy its own strictures and is, according to its own strictures, lacking 'sense' as a proposition. (Yet he maintains it is nevertheless true a criterion)." I see. Still, it was a good try! A point can be made that a senseless proposition is no proposition (cfr. "He propositioned", "he proposed"). ----Etc. Speranza