[lit-ideas] Re: Wittgenstein the C-ionist*
- From: Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 19:40:49 +0100 (BST)
This last post of yours avoids, and not for the first time, answering in
suitably specific terms a whole host of points already made about W's actual
words that [arguably, you may know better] call for an alternative
explanation. [Btw, even when you are right there remains, intellectual
arrogance notwithstanding, the little requirement of explaining why].
For example, I quoted and analysed TLP to show how 'Blue here' can hardly be
an elem.propn. Instead of explaining how exactly 'Blue here' is an
elem.prop., within the terms of the TLP and the textual argument I offered as
to why this can hardly be the case, we get dreck like this:
--- Robert Paul <Robert.Paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear Donal,
>
> You 'find the evidence unsatisfactory. Right. There's no _evidence_ that
> you
> even understood the evidence.> Etc.
I think even a third-rate Hollywood scriptwriter might think this kind of
dialogue needs a rewrite. (On the other hand some think 'Truth! You can't
handle the truth!' a masterpiece of writing. There's no accounting for
taste.).
> Richard Henninge and I have perhaps wasted too much time on your fictional
> Wittgenstein already.
Believe me when I suggest many others will think the converse is "perhaps"
true.
If you think your time is wasted fine, but don't think you could argue your
way out of a wet paper bag with this kind of self-regarding flummery.
Specific points require _rationally_ specific answers. So tell us again: why
is 'Blue here' an elem.propn.? Or pass over the point in silence [perhaps
because only a moron could not see the incontrovertibility of what you have
said so far as proving the point; well, I, for one, am that moron..and for
reasons given I think W is on the moron-side on this too, since if you are
right W was much more grossly inconsistent in TLP than my view suggests he
was].
The view that some kind of positivism is at work in TLP, and that some kind
of doctrine of the unsayable pervades W's whole work, is hardly news. Let's
treat these ideas with some seriousness and not a load of flouncing about.
Have a Good Friday,
Donal
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