I entered this thread in the hope it marked a turning-point, a watershed - a point at which all true civilised people recognised that Miss Streisand's work should be opposed and reviled in all its forms, and restitution made to all victims - for example, to those whose loveable small-scale movies were wrecked when she barbrously heaved all her fat-ass entourage on board for an all-expenses-paid egotrip to Barbraville. But no. You people think you have more important things to discuss. Donal P.S. On the actual issue: I once helped a civilised group of heavily armed hunters fight a barbarous society of wild lions. The lions lost. Badly. Does that help answer the question? Actually is it a question? It might just be a topic heading. ___________________________________________________________ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html