Once again, I extend my appreciation to Eric Dean for carrying our discussion forward, in directions with which I can largely agree. A few questions remain. On Jan 9, 2008 7:39 AM, Eric Dean <ecdean99@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I think it can be productive to try to assert the (substantial) conditions > of possibility for moral judgment, but not because anyone's going to resolve > the question of whether the asserted list contains all and only the > conditions of possibility, but because doing so may help illuminate some > corner of the human condition in a way otherwise not readily available. To me one of the most memorable assertions I have read on lit-ideas was John Wager's proposition that moral judgment presupposes ambiguity. If a situation is clear cut, there is no moral judgment to be made. Would, then, ambiguity count as a condition of possibility? > > Asking apposite, incisive questions seems to me a skill worth cultivating. > Transcendental analyses can provide very useful tools for the questioner, so > I wouldn't jettison them. But the idea that they constitute the whole or > even the soul of philosophy seems misguided to me. I agree. To adapt a remark that Bourdieu made about science, the fact that we now know it to be the product of particular parts of the world at particular moments in history does not make it less worthy of study. Or, as Edward Said once noted, the recurrence of perennial issues is a sign of vitality in a discipline. When all matters seem settled, the discipline is dead. Returning, however, from morals to epistemology: A few days back I mentioned a website (http://www.iep.utm.edu/k/kantmeta.htm#H2) that provides a synopsis of Kant's metaphysics and asked if any of our experts would comment upon the account that it offers. Since no one has risen to that bait, let me sharpen the challenge a bit. The explanation of the synthetic a priori reads as follows, "Synthetic a priori claims, Kant argues, demand an entirely different kind of proof than those required for analytic, a priori claims or synthetic, a posteriori claims. Indications for how to proceed, Kant says, can be found in the examples of synthetic a priori claims in natural science and mathematics, specifically geometry. Claims like Newton's, "the quantity of matter is always preserved," and the geometer's claim, "the angles of a triangle always add up to 180 degrees" are known a priori, but they cannot be known merely from an analysis of the concepts of matter or triangle. We must "go outside and beyond the concept. . . joining to it a priori in thought something which I have not thought in it." (B 18)" In retrospect, Kant's f examples seem suspect. Nowadays, both these claims would be qualified. Of the first we would say, **In classical mechanics** the quantity of matter is always preserved. Since Einstein and the atomic bomb, we know that conversion of matter into energy can leave less matter at the end than at the beginning of a physical process. Of the second we would say **In Euclidean geometry** the angles of a triangle always add up to 180 degrees. Now, thanks to Bernard Riemann, we know that Euclidean geometry is only a special, if familiar, case. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemannian_geometry) says, "Riemannian geometry was first put forward in generality by Bernhard Riemann in the nineteenth century. It deals with a broad range of geometries whose metric properties vary from point to point, as well as two standard types of Non-Euclidean geometry, spherical geometry and hyperbolic geometry, as well as Euclidean geometry itself." In contrast to Kant's day, when Newtonian (now classical) mechanics and Euclidean geometry were believed to constitute the very fabric of the universe, we now view both as examples of systems that logically derive consequences that, while they remain useful to those of us in the middle of the cosmos-to-quantum scale, have been shown to be only subsets of larger systems--with different assumptions and implications. If, however, we put aside these relatively substantive but demonstrably erroneous examples of synthetic a priori propositions, what are we left with? Some plausible-sounding examples can be found at http://www.philosophypages.com/hy/5f.htm "As we saw last time, applying the concepts of space and time as forms of sensible intuition is necessary condition for any perception. But the possibility of scientific knowledge requires that our experience of the world be not only perceivable but thinkable as well, and Kant held that the general intelligibility of experience entails the satisfaction of two further conditions: First, it must be possible in principle to arrange and organize the chaos of our many individual sensory images by tracing the connections that hold among them. This Kant called the synthetic unity of the sensory manifold. Second, it must be possible in principle for a single subject to perform this organization by discovering the connections among perceived images. This is satisfied by what Kant called the transcendental unity of apperception." On the one hand, the proposition that knowledge requires the organization of sensory images by finding connections among them comes as no surprise. But the interesting work on precisely how the relevant processes work is being done in fields outside philosophy, in neurophysiology, for example. Such phrases as "the synthetic unity of the sensory manifold" or "the transcendental unity of apperception" appear no more meaningful than "phlogiston." Or am I missing something here? John > > > Regards to one and all. > Eric Dean > Washington DC > -- John McCreery The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN Tel. +81-45-314-9324 http://www.wordworks.jp/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html