[lit-ideas] Re: The Monkey's Paw
- From: Paul Stone <pastone@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:26:50 -0400
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:39 PM, <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Now I'm confused. Do monkeys masturbate?
Yes, I have seen it at three different zoos and all exactly the same
kind of monkey -- quite fittingly (at least euphoniously speaking) the
macaque.
> I suppose a monkey contradicts Heidegger.
You'd have to be to do so.
> The problem with monkeys is that they are not really domesticated. Witness
> the chimp held as 'pet' by this Connecticut ladidah lady, who (the chimp)
> murdered the visitor (to the lady's house, where the chimp was).
Be careful with your taxonomy -- chimps are not monkeys. Both are
primates, but not in the same in the same suborder. Chimps are apes
while monkeys are non-tarsier prosimians.
> Note that Heidegger, in spite of all his flatulence, was wright about (as in
> von Wright) the etymon of philosophia, the wisdom of love. If philosophy
> meant love of wisdom, as some (Walter O) thing (think), then a pedophile
> would be a child of love, not the love of children.
And a cannibal, a humanitarian.
> Jerkin' the gherkin is possibly something a monkey can do, but, again, not
> really zuhanden, but as Heidegger notes, metaphorically, vorhanden. Before
> the hand, to the hand. What about inhanden? In the hand. That's
> masturbation, proper.
>
> Monkeys and men, as Heidegger notes, are the only animals that masturbate
> ('masturbieren').
Well, Heidegger obviously thought that chimps were monkeys OR that
they too masturbate. Quite an oversight for a child of the 20th C.
> As Heidegger's child asked his father:
>
> HEIDEGGER JUNIOR: What is the most human element?
> HEIDEGGER. What d'you mean?
> HEIDEGGER JUNIOR: The 'thing' that makes me a man.
> HEIDEGGER: The penis, of course.
> HEIDEGGER JUNIOR: Wrong on both counts. The hand!
Father: What's the most sensitive part of your body during masturbation?
Son: My ears!
p
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