Now I'm confused. Do monkeys masturbate? But as Jacobs notes, they have paws, not hands. I suppose a monkey contradicts Heidegger. The problem with monkeys is that they are not really domesticated. Witness the chimp held as 'pet' by this Connecticut ladidah lady, who (the chimp) murdered the visitor (to the lady's house, where the chimp was). Scruton dealt with this. When the Minotaur's mother f*cked the bull, was she being zoophiliac, or was the bull being anthropophiliac? Note that Heidegger, in spite of all his flatulence, was wright about (as in von Wright) the etymon of philosophia, the wisdom of love. If philosophy meant love of wisdom, as some (Walter O) thing (think), then a pedophile would be a child of love, not the love of children. Atlas is following Habermas -- when we have thinging things to things, we have instrumental rationality. Only when we conceive of the other as an end in itself (or herself) do we acquire 'strategic rationality' -- we assume that the 'other' can be more than a thing. When Geary repairs an air conditioner, he treats the air conditioner as a thing. "I've spent my life doing things to things", he prides himself of. If he treated the air conditioner as more than a thing, then the thing would strike back to him, and that would scare him. As Heidegger notes, Lieben is huzzing (life is a hoot, in Ogden's translation), but the last joke, who is it on? ---- Yes, still operating. Puccini called the opera lovers, operarii. The pun is lost in English, but then it is an Italian pun. Opera is opra in Italian (pronounced as in Winfrey, but without the final aspiration). Operario, is a worker, -- it's all so fun. Jerkin' the gherkin is possibly something a monkey can do, but, again, not really zuhanden, but as Heidegger notes, metaphorically, vorhanden. Before the hand, to the hand. What about inhanden? In the hand. That's masturbation, proper. Monkeys and men, as Heidegger notes, are the only animals that masturbate ('masturbieren'). As Heidegger's child asked his father: HEIDEGGER JUNIOR: What is the most human element? HEIDEGGER. What d'you mean? HEIDEGGER JUNIOR: The 'thing' that makes me a man. HEIDEGGER: The penis, of course. HEIDEGGER JUNIOR: Wrong on both counts. The hand! Hold your hand out naughty boy! ----- JL Speranza Somewhere south of Lammermuir In a message dated 9/22/2009 12:32:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Thank you, John. In fear of waking Palma, I dare say that Heidegger distinguished between zuhanden and vorhanden as the two forms of beings. Vorhanden being nature made, and simply put "there' for us as Oakland is not. Zuhanden being being of human artifact, or THING BEING, or that which we relate to not as "being there" but being puposeful to us. Most animals, except humans, seem to spend most of their lives relating to vorhanden being. Except domestic pets, of course, who in deference to us acknowledge such frivilous beinghoodness as zuhandenness and sometimes use a litterbox. Human life on the whole is zuhanden-engaged. Even such supposedly pure vorhanden relations as sexuality have become zuhanden for many of us -- not me, of course. Our human lives are so thoroughly immersed in zuhanden that we think of our thing-engaged lives as "natural". Anyone who's had more than one course in Heiddegger will no doubt straighten me out, but I don't care. Human culture is aesthetic, philosophic and technological. We thing the world every bit as much if not more than we think it or dream it. Life is a hoot.