I just arrived home from Europe and saw this. This e-mail is strictly for Omar. I have read your posts carefully, despite what you think. I also know about Abraham. Do you? The latest research on Abraham is that he didn't exist. Source: "The Bible Unearthed." I have no clue as to which of these stories is true, nor do I care. I would continue this discussion with you except that I would rather discuss than attack, which is clearly not your choice. Insulting people does not make your opinions correct. So pontificate away and I will ignore you as a person who cannot control his emotions and therefore cannot have a rational discussion. End of story. Veronica Milford MI > [Original Message] > From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 7/28/2004 6:35:39 PM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The 9.11 Report > > This is also going to be a brief response since it\s > late here in the Balkans and I need to get up early. > Most Israelis are secular and don\t care much about > what the salvationist religions consider holy. The > charedim might, but then they didn\t ask for a > nation-state in the first place and would probably get > along better with religious Arabs than with secular > Israelis. > > I would suggest that the US gives all the Israelis the > option of immigrating as citizens and we\ll see what > happens. This need not prejudice a political solution, > and those who unlike Veronica have read my past posts > carefully know that this is not in fact the solution I > advocate, but it could help. > > I don\t fully understand the rest of your post, if the > UN created Israel, then it created Palestine also. And > while it wasn\t a fully fair solution it did at least > endorse a viable Palestinian state. Something we > might wish to consider if we reject a bi-national > solution. > > O.K. > > > --- Ronnie <vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Omar, re who was there first being irrelevant, > > probably so. However, re Israelis would be happy to > > go to US, I am very doubtful about this. Palestine > > is Holy Land to all three salvationist religions. > > Nothing holy in US for any of them. > > > > Re Indians in Milford, that is an excellent point > > and I am glad you brought it up. The fact is, if > > the Israelis need to be removed because it's > > Palestinian land, what about the rest of us? > > Indians were in Milford, we ought to all give it > > back and go back where we came from. In the case of > > US, from everywhere in the world. Israel was > > created by UN, and the reasons Andreas gave are > > accurate. I believe they picked that because of > > Zionism. It was not arbitrarily picked, but it was > > the only one that was 'legal.' All others are > > where they are by conquest. Forgive the brief > > response, I am trying to answer and keep expense > > down. > > > > Veronica > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Jul 26, 2004 4:16 PM > > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The 9.11 Report > > > > --- Ronnie <vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Re Israel, if we > > > are advocating removing Israel from the Middle > > East, > > > you (we) need to come up with a place for them (6 > > > million plus) to go, assuming they are willing, > > > which I believe they are not. > > > > *How about the US ? I believe that most Israelis > > would be willing, if they were given the US > > citizenship. > > > > > > > There is also the question of who was there first, > > > (I believe the Jews) etc., etc. > > > > *Impressed by your enormous historical knowledge, > > Veronica. The question of who was there first is not > > necessarily very relevant, and it can\t really be > > put > > in these terms given that those who were there are > > long dead. However, some day check out the story of > > Abraham in the Bible, the references to the Semitic > > peoples who were living there etc. > > > > > Re which Arabs will be carpet bombed if it comes > > to > > > that, I am afraid, literally, that most of the US > > > population will not much care. > > > > *How could they ? To care, they would need some > > basic > > knowledge of geography. > > > > > If Israel is the cause of all our troubles, how > > does > > > one explain the Arab Muslims in the Sudan > > > exterminating the African Muslims in the Sudan? I > > > don't get this, really. > > > > *Right, ethnic conflicts are real hard to get. > > Whatever happened to those Indians in Milford ? > > > > O.K. > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! 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