>We are NOT the GOOD GUYS, guys, we're just GUYS. ck: I beg to quibble, but a quibble, at the least, is seriously due here. Although I fear that the US's ethical ideals are eroding under Bush, we still have recent national memories of what we thought we were. And we, as a nation, still seem capable of being stunned when it's revealed that we commit atrocities, that we commit torture--and that some of us in power aren't appalled still appals us. As long as we react with horror to our own government's doings (and the corporate governments sponsoring our government--unacceptable in Americans' minds), we show ourselves to be "better." We hope we're better. We strive to be better. The tragedy of the Bush administration, for America, is that we lose a piece of our betterness hourly. But don't compare the US to such enlightened states as tiny Denmark, when evaluating how we're doing. Look instead to gigantic states with huge populations--places like China, Russia (or USSR), Central American countries. Hell, look at Mexico. The degree of OBVIOUS corruption and misery in Mexico, compared to either California or Texas, is so much higher than right over the border, it's terrifying. I'd take living in the US over Mexico any ol' day. While I might get carjacked and even murdered in Fresno, in Mexico it's the cops who carjacked me, then demanded ransom. I suggest you get around a little more, and see for yourself how things are, how they feel when you're there. It's essential to continue criticizing the US--harder than we've been doing--to ensure that this nation doesn't become an uninhabitable nightmare. For other countries, as you imply, the US is already over that line, unfortunately. Don't misunderstand me: I don't mean to defend the US's inhumane, hypocritical, and seriously dangerous policies. But to not see that the US has a foundation that's better than its sometimes rotten, stupid policies would be a short-sighted mistake. Carol