[lit-ideas] Re: Simone Weil (Was: Kataphatic, Negative and Apophatic Theology)
- From: "Erin Holder" <erin.holder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 12:52:21 -0400
Oh it's not a matter of liking these quotes. I don't know if I like them.
Hell, I might like them a lot if I could figure out what in the heck she's
talking about. When I read them I think "colourless green ideas sleep
furiously". I mean, even Cioran makes more sense to me and he goes on about
Fate as a confining prison is really only a mask for a more
supreme force that works to annihilate us. Go figure that one out.
Erin
Toronto
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> The thing about Gravity and Grace is that it is her journaling, published
> posthumously. If I can figure out where my copy is I'll post some quotes
I
> liked a little better than those you chose <g>.
>
> Julie Krueger
>
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> Kataphatic, Negative and Apophatic Theology) Date: 8/6/2004 10:53:38 AM
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> Speaking of Simone Weil, I read Gravity and Grace. It was one of those
> books I read where, for the most part, I didn't have even the slightest
clue
> what was going on. For example, here are some random aphorisms. Can
anyone
> tell me what any of these mean?
>
>
> Erin
> Toronto
>
>
> "All the natural movements of the soul are controlled by laws of gravity
> analogous to those of physical gravity. Grace is the only exception."
>
> "Gravity. Generally, what we expect of others depends on the effect of
> gravity upon ourselves, what we receive from them depends on the effect
of
> gravity upon them. Sometimes, (by chance) the two coincide, often they
do
> not."
>
> "Lear, a tragedy of gravity. Everything we call base is a phenomenon due
to
> gravity. Moreover, the world baseness is an indication of this fact."
>
> "To come down by a movement in which gravity plays no part... Gravity
makes
> things come down, wings make them rise: What wings raised to the second
> power can make things come down without weight?"
>
> "To lower oneself is to rise in the domain of moral gravity. Moral
gravity
> makes us fall towards the heights."
>
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> From: "Austin Meredith" <Kouroo@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 11:14 AM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Kataphatic, Negative and Apophatic Theology
>
>
> >
> > >What about Simone Weil? She surely embraced an aspect of negative
> > >theology as part of her paradox.
> >
> > In Negative Theology the meaning of a locution such as "the worship of
> God"
> > is negative in that it contains nothing whatever that is positive. It
> > contains no assertion whatever as to the existence or reality or
> > characteristics of God. It consisting totally and exclusively in a
> > thorough-going refusal to participate in any idolatry -- that is, in
any
> > worship of anything that is not God. For instance, when a "religious"
> > person praises the power of God, as in the hymn "A Mighty Fortress Is
Our
> > God," a practitioner of Negative Theology responds: "You are
worshiping,
> > not God, but power. You are an idolator, and not superior to any other
> > idolator."
> >
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