In a message dated 10/12/2004 8:55:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Well, if there is the third world there is a third world. But Bush (obviously) is using 'third world' in a different sense to Popper's third world. It was to avoid this confusion that Popper altered his terminology and spoke of World 3 rather than the third world. Typical of the neo-con that Sir Karl was. He should rather have _fought_ against the stupid concept of 'third world' (in most meanings), rather. It's like those who speak of WW1 when it's best referred to as "The Great War", while WW2 was, inappropriately, referred to as "The Phoney War" till it proved all wrong. Cheers, JL ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html