[lit-ideas] Playing Golf Correctly and Playing Golf Properly

From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:23:45 -0400 (EDT)
"the difference between playing golf correctly and playing golf  properly".

In a message dated 6/28/2012 5:49:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
without understanding the 'key tenet', PI  cannot be properly understood. 
 

"As far as I know," (beware HPG says this because he _knows_ *far* --  
WoW:376 -- "the ruthless and unswerving associations of philosophy with the  
study of ordinary" --- vs. EXTRAordinary -- "language was peculiar to the 
Oxford  schene, and has never been seen ANYWHERE BEFORE OR SINCE. A classic 
miniature of  this kind of procedure common at the Play Group was Austin's 
request to Warnock  to tell him
the difference between playing golf correctly and playing golf  properly."
 
Round 1:

McEvoy:
 
> As I am still here trying to explain: without understanding the  'key
> tenet', PI cannot be properly understood. The 'key tenet' is at the  back
> of W says: and is fundamental to what W seeks to show.
 
Round 2:
 
R. Paul:
 
"This implies [implicates? wrongly?]  that I have never 'properly  
understood' the Philosophical
Investigations (all or in part, apparently). In  light of that, my 
participation in this discussion is at an end."

Round 3:
 
McEvoy:
 
"It may be thought implicit in Robert's response that his view is the  
proper understanding [for if it is not assumed to be the proper understanding,  
why curtail discussion on what is the proper understanding? why be  
affronted?]"
 
---
 
Austin (to Warnock): Can you tell me the difference between playing golf  
correctly and playing golf properly?
 
Warnock: Sure.
 
HPG:
 
-- Smith plays golf correctly.
Smith plays golf properly.
 
Smith understands Witters properly.
Smith properly understands Witters.
 
McEvoy:
 
"[W]ithout understanding the 'key tenet', PI cannot be properly  
understood."
 
versus,
 
"cannot be understood _simpliciter_."
 
versus 
 
"may be misunderstood".
 
versus:
 
"cannot be correctly understood."
 
And so on.
 
----
 
"to put this beyond challenge by discussion is...well, hardly Popperian.  
[Some critics would say it is, however, sadly 'Wittgensteinian']". I would 
use  Gr*c*an but R. P. blocks this.
 
 
--- playing golf properly.
--- playing golf correctly.
 
NOT playing golf correctly -- not playing golf simpliciter.
NOT playing golf properly -- not playing golf simpliciter.
 
properly understanding PI
understanding PI
understanding PI but not properly
 
etc.
 
 
Cheers,
 
 
Speranza
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