In a critical spirit, I have specified what might refute the interpretation of PI in terms of an underlying ‘key tenet’ that the sense of ‘what is said’ is never said in ‘what is said’ but may only be shown (a tenet I have sought to show is implicit in what W there writes). (1) W explicitly (or clearly by implication) disavowing any such tenet. (2) A counterexample to the ‘key tenet’ such as a “rule” stated so that its sense is said in its statement. (3) An alternative interpretation of the text which ‘fits’ better: for example, one that gives a more persuasive account of why W discusses possible ‘misunderstandings’ of a series of numbers [e.g. ‘0, 1, 2, 3, 4….10’] or of a formula like ‘Continually add 2 to n’ – better than the suggestion these examples are used to show that the sense of such a series or formula is not said in its statement, and that the sense may only be shown. So far, on the list, no joy in finding a refutation of the ‘key tenet’ conjecture [pointing towards the voluminous work of Hacker and Baker does not constitute an acceptable refutation in rational terms]. No one has suggested anything that would support (1). Richard offered a counterexample as per (2) but one easily rebutted using what W says in PI. As to (3), no one has seen fit to proffer their alternative reading with arguments as to why it is a better ‘fit’. Interestingly A.J. Ayer does have an alternative interpretation of PI that finds no role for the ‘key tenet’; but not only is he not on the list, but the shortcomings and ill-fitting character of Ayer’s interpretation may be left for another post – suffice it to say, Ayer makes the basic error of taking what W says in PI as constituting the point of W saying it, whereas the point of what W says lies in what it shows. However, Ayer’s interpretation does provoke me to offer a (4) in this list of possible lines of ‘refutation’: for Ayer touches on W’s philosophy of mathematics and this may [or may not] provide a source for rebutting the supposed ‘key tenet’. W’s philosophy of mathematics is the area in which W himself thought his contribution was greatest [see: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/wittgenstein-mathematics/ ]. How might it bear on the ‘key tenet’? Perhaps we could establish W’s ‘philosophy of mathematics’, especially that of ‘the later W’, and on that basis show that it is incompatible with the supposed ‘key tenet’. Whether this may be done may be left open here. But it is at least a lacuna, if not a significant omission, that my posts have not explained the relation between the ‘key tenet’ and W’s philosophy of mathematics. And that this post carries on that ignoble tradition. Donal Looking forward to the soccer Plymouth