Geary is discussing Plato's _Republic_ and his sexist bias towards female education. kurai ei ou apo egoge kai heras aphrodite os kurai soma epagoge koron kai kalon kuron Pl., Rep. iii, 2. Which is standardly interpreted against the possibility of _female_ training _in toto_. Geary asks: >So why do they call it a "training" bra? This would hold against Plato, only that Geary's argument is totally anachronistic. In two senses of the word: 1. Training bra's are a Californian invention. They are not Attic. 2. Bra is short for brasserie, so while the training bra being California it would be possible to derive it at least as early as Napoleonic Revolutionary France -- never earlier. A thorough study of Greek classical sculpture shows no evidence of 'kurai' ever wearing bra, training or other. J. L. Speranza, Esq. Town: Calle Arenales 2021, Piso 5, St. 8, La Recoleta C1124AAE, Buenos Aires, Argentina. Tel. 54 11 4824 4253 Fax 54 221 425 9205 Country: St. Michael Hall, Calle 58, No. 611, La Plata B1900 BPY Provincia de Buenos Aires, Argentina. Tel. 54 221 425 7817 Fax 54 221 425 9205 http://www.stmichaels.com.ar jls@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx jlsperanza@xxxxxxx http://www.netverk/~jls.htm ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com