[lit-ideas] Re: [Marquand - not the novelist

  • From: Mike Geary <jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:42:26 -0500

LAWRENCE:

HIPPY MEAT IN MEMPHIS

Is there still Hippy meat
In your Memphis stew?
I thought all that
Had rotted away,
But perhaps you stirred in
More and added
Censorious sauce

And a flock of crows
For racial hue,
And strictly peppered it
With all the epithets
You learned while
Marching against, or for,
I can't remember which.

I never imagined
There was any left.
I've swallowed so much
Since then I can scarce
Recall its taste.  I think I
Liked it then, but I
Can't remember why


*:  )


I like that, Lawrence.  But please, it's  "hippie"  not hippy.  In fact,  I
have almost no ass at all, but I do have a beer gut and I continually have
to pull my pants up.  I thought about suspenders, but that would ruin my
hippie image.


Mike Geary

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On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Lawrence Helm
<lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> An observation posted at
> http://www.lawrencehelm.com/2010/08/hippy-meat-in-memphis-stew.html
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> Lawrence
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:31 PM
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Marquand - not the novelist
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> On 8/15/2010 11:22 AM, Mike Geary wrote:
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> >   The U,S. often denies entry of foreign artists or performers because
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> > they don't approve of something their country has said or done.  It's
> not only fascistic, it's stupid.
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> From my point of view it seems that Mike was employing the old hippie
> definition of "fascist," (roughly "oppressive authority for its own sake or
> authority robotically enforcing something with which one disagrees") in
> which case he's right.
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> Lawrence was using a political-theory based definition of fascist*,
> (roughly "authoritarian hierarchical government opposing democracy or
> secular liberalism") in which case he's right.
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> And sure, governments do really dumb stuff. The US impounded and destroyed
> Zimmermann's piano when he tried to begin his US tour. Yet all governments
> do really dumb stuff by their very nature. They overreact.
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> They goof. They never let K get to the Castle. That's an argument for a
> weak central government ... part of that perpetually unresolved dispute
> between the centralized and the decentralized.
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> MW-11th defines fascism as "a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as
> that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual
> and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a
> dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible
> suppression of opposition."
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