Mailer is saying philosophy is irrelevant except for those in search of a hereafter, i.e., a God, and existentialism needs a "God who, no matter His or Her > cosmic dimensions, (whether larger or smaller than we assume), embodies > nonetheless some of our faults, our ambitions, our talents and our gloom." He's saying Satre failed because he couldn't find a man-god to worship, otherwise known as theological relativism. Mailer isn't making a huge amount of sense here. Andy Amago > [Original Message] > From: Paul Stone <pas@xxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 5/20/2005 10:29:20 PM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Mailer on Sartre (was: Faith) > > > On Sartre's God Problem > > Norman Mailer > > This year marks the centenary of the birth of Jean-Paul Sartre, the great > philosopher of existentialism and a definitive model of the intellectual > engagé. The Paris-based daily Libération asked a group of writers to > comment on the philosopher's legacy. Norman Mailer was among the > contributors. His remarks are reprinted below. --Adam Shatz > > > I would say that Sartre, despite his incontestable strengths of mind, > talent and character, is still the man who derailed existentialism, sent it > right off the track. In part, this may have been because he gave too wide a > berth to Heidegger's thought. Heidegger spent his working life laboring > mightily in the crack of philosophy's buttocks, right there in the cleft > between Being and Becoming. I would go so far as to suggest Heidegger was > searching for a viable connection between the human and the divine that > would not inflame too irreparably the reigning post-Hitler German mandarins > who were in no rush to forgive his past and would hardly encourage his > tropism toward the nonrational. > > Sartre, however, was comfortable as an atheist even if he had no fundament > on which to plant his philosophical feet. To hell with that, he didn't need > it. He was ready to survive in mid-air. We are French, he was ready to say. > We have minds, we can live with the absurd and ask for no reward. That is > because we are noble enough to live with emptiness, and strong enough to > choose a course which we are even ready to die for. And we will do this in > whole defiance of the fact that, indeed, we have no footing. We do not look > to a Hereafter. > > It was an attitude; it was a proud stance; it was equal to living with > one's mind in formless space, but it deprived existentialism of more > interesting explorations. For atheism is a cropless undertaking when it > comes to philosophy. (We need only think of Logical Positivism!) Atheism > can contend with ethics (as Sartre did on occasion most brilliantly), but > when it comes to metaphysics, atheism ends in a locked cell. It is, after > all, near to impossible for a philosopher to explore how we are here > without entertaining some notion of what the prior force might have been. > Cosmic speculation is asphyxiated if existence came into being ex nihilo. > In Sartre's case--worse. Existence came into being without a clue to > suggest whether we are here for good purpose, or there is no reason > whatsoever for us. > > > All the same, Sartre's philosophical talents were damnably virtuoso. He was > able to function with precision in the upper echelons of every logical > structure he set up. If only he had not been an existentialist! For an > existentialist who does not believe in some kind of Other is equal to an > engineer who designs an automobile that requires no driver and accepts no > passengers. If existentialism is to flourish (that is, develop through a > series of new philosophers building on earlier premises), it needs a God > who is no more confident of the end than we are; a God who is an artist, > not a law-giver; a God who suffers the uncertainties of existence; a God > who lives without any of the pre-arranged guarantees that sit like an > incubus upon formal theology with its flatulent, self-serving assumption of > a Being who is All-Good and All-Powerful. What a gargantuan > oxymoron--All-Good and All-Powerful. It is certain to maroon any and all > formal theologians who would like to explain an earthquake. Before the > wrath of a tsunami, they can only break wind. The notion of an existential > God, a Creator who may have been doing His or Her artistic best, but could > still have been remiss in designing the tectonic plates, is not within > their scope. > > Sartre was alien to the possibility that existentialism might thrive if it > would just assume that indeed we do have a God who, no matter His or Her > cosmic dimensions, (whether larger or smaller than we assume), embodies > nonetheless some of our faults, our ambitions, our talents and our gloom. > For the end is not written. If it is, there is no place for existentialism. > Base our beliefs, however, on the fact of our existence, and it takes no > great step for us to assume that we are not only individuals but may well > be a vital part of a larger phenomenon that searches for some finer vision > of life that could conceivably emerge from our present human condition. > There is no reason, one can argue, why this assumption is not nearer to the > real being of our lives than anything the oxymoronic theologians would > offer us. It is certainly more reasonable than Sartre's ongoing > assumption--despite his passionate desire for a better society--that we are > here willy-nilly and must manage to do the best we can with endemic > nothingness installed upon eternal floorlessness. Sartre was indeed a > writer of major dimension, but he was also a philosophical executioner. He > guillotined existentialism just when we needed most to hear its howl, its > barbaric yawp that there is something in common between God and all of us. > We, like God, are imperfect artists doing the best we can. We may succeed > or fail--God as well as us. That is the implicit if undeveloped air of > existentialism. We would do well to live again with the Greeks, live again > with the expectation that the end remains open but human tragedy may well > be our end. > > Great hope has no real footing unless one is willing to face into the doom > that may also be on the way. Those are the poles of our existence--as they > have been from the first instant of the Big Bang. Something immense may now > be stirring, but to meet it we will do better to expect that life will not > provide the answers we need so much as it will offer the privilege of > improving our questions. It is not moral absolutism but theological > relativism we would do well to explore if our real need is for a God with > whom we can engage our lives. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html