Eric, the criticism is not that Lawrence speaks of "Left" and "Right" but that his categorizations and generalizations are crude and that he overhomogenizes "leftists". Your > Not all leftists are counterculturalists and vice versa. > Instead what defines counterculturalism is alienation. doesn't seem much of an advance to me, frankly, though it may be an advance of your >Let me suggest "counterculturalist" instead of "leftist." to which I responded, and which does not seem to me to meet Carol's point. Judy ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html