[lit-ideas] Joycian Wortstellung

  • From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
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  • Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:52:36 EDT

1971 Ibid. 16  Sept. 381/2 There was a fine Joycian slide into a muck wake. 
 
I propose to use "Joycian" for the language and keep "Joycean" for _other_  
uses. It's not obscure enough -- but will do?
 
The other one (entry in the OED) citing Finnegans within the etymology  
section is 'pandemia', below.

What a genius of a man, Joyce. People in Argentina don't necessarily  like 
him, because, they say, 'he confuses into what's right and wrong in the use  of 
the Queen's English". 
 
It's so fascinating to explore what he must have had in mind when he  
_coined_ so many words. 
 
Cheers,
 
JL
 
 
[< ancient Greek  of or belonging to the whole people  (see _PANDEMIC_ 
(http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/cgi/crossref?query_type=advsearch&qu
eryword=Finnegans+Wake&first=1&max_to_show=10&search_spec=simple:deri&order=ab
&return_set=entries&sort_type=alpha&search_id=m22q-gWS3Mu-17409&control_no=501
70213&result_place=1&xrefword=pandemic)  adj. and n.) + _-IA_ 
(http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/cgi/crossref?query_type=advsearch&queryword=F
innegans+Wake&first=1&max_to_show=10&search_spec=simple:deri&order=ab&return_s
et=entries&sort_type=alpha&search_id=m22q-gWS3Mu-17409&control_no=50170213&res
ult_place=1&xrefword=-ia&ps=suffix&homonym_no=1)  suffix1. Cf. post-classical 
Latin  pandemius adj. (in febris pandemia) (1769 or earlier). Cf.  _PANDEMIC_ 
(http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/cgi/crossref?query_type=advse
arch&queryword=Finnegans+Wake&first=1&max_to_show=10&search_spec=simple:deri&o
rder=ab&return_set=entries&sort_type=alpha&search_id=m22q-gWS3Mu-17409&control
_no=50170213&result_place=1&xrefword=pandemic&ps=n.)   n., _PANDEMY_ 
(http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/cgi/crossref?query_type=advsearch&quer
yword=Finnegans+Wake&first=1&max_to_show=10&search_spec=simple:deri&order=ab&r
eturn_set=entries&sort_type=alpha&search_id=m22q-gWS3Mu-17409&control_no=50170
213&result_place=1&xrefword=pandemy&ps=n.)   n. 
The  following prob. shows independent borrowing of ancient Greek  the whole  
people:
1934 _J. JOYCE_ 
(http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-j.html#j-joyce)  
Finnegans  Wake 263 Old Whiteman self, the  blighty 
blotchy, beyond the bays, hope of ostrogothic and ottomanic faith  converters, 
despair of Pandemia's postwartem plastic  surgeons?] 
 
 
----
 
1927 New Republic 20  July 236 Joycean passages and bursts of purple 
lyricism. 1932  Times Lit. Suppl. 26 May 386/3  The modified ‘Joycean’ language 
is 
clever and expressive. 1935  Discovery Dec. 378/2 The  verbatim description of 
one ‘disturbed case’ by another, with its progressive  lapse into Joycian 
language. 1938  _PARTRIDGE_ 
(http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-p.html#partridge)
  World of Words vi. 161 The  Joyceans are 
artificial, but, except at the cost of a highly gymnastic  cerebration, 
unintelligible. 
1953  _M.  LOWRY_ 
(http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-l2.html#m-lowry) 
 Lett. (1967) 330 Even Bernard de  Voto had to 
interpolate that he was ‘a good Even Behe hoped’. 1965  Times Lit. Suppl. 11 
Mar. 199/3 
 This particular ‘deviation’ has a rather Joycean flavour to it,  as it 
combines the meaning and the effect of exorbitance in one word. 1966  Listener 
2 
June 805/3 The hero's  name, Strumienski, would delight any Joycean: it is 
derived from ‘stream’. 1971  Ibid. 16 Sept. 381/2 There was a  fine Joycian 
slide 
into a muck wake. 1971  Daily Tel. (Colour Suppl.) 3 Dec. 9/2 The 
lecturer..led his summer school audience down the howling  avenues of Joycean 
puns.



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