The closest to "hoho" seems to be the owl hoot; however none of that addresses the interesting coincidence that the most prominent and powerful Indian presence in the American Northwest used the term "hoho" for approval. Could this be a "loan word" that retains but this limited value? Lawrence From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Julie Krueger Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 7:47 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Hoho http://www.eleceng.adelaide.edu.au/personal/dabbott/animal.html http://matadornetwork.com/notebook/animal-noises-around-the-world/ Julie Krueger On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:53 AM, Walter C. Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx> wrote: Don't know about Santa, but I've never met a Russian, German or French rooster that went "cockle-doodle-doo." In our house, they go "kee-kee-ree-kee." Celebrating difference, Walter O Quoting Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > JL, > > > > Santa Claus goes "hoho," but does he do that throughout Europe and South > America or just in North America, and did this term perhaps come from the > Iroquois of New York who for a time were the most powerful force in our > North East? > > > > In a footnote in The Conspiracy of Pontiac, Francis Parkman writes "In the > year 1745, August Gottlieb Spangenburg, a bishop of the United Brethren, > spent several weeks in Onandaga, and frequently attended the great Council > [of all the Iroquois Nations and tribes]. The council-house was built of > bark. On each side six seats were placed, each containing six persons. No > one was admitted besides the members of the council, except a few, who were > particularly honored. If one rose to speak, all the rest sat in profound > silence, smoking their pipes. The speaker uttered his words in a singing > tone, always rising a few notes at the close of each sentence. Whatever was > pleasing to the council was confirmed by all with the word Nee, or Yes. > And, at the end of each speech, the whole company joined in applauding the > speaker by calling Hoho. . ." > > > > Lawrence > > This electronic communication is governed by the terms and conditions at http://www.mun.ca/cc/policies/electronic_communications_disclaimer_2011.php ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4725 - Release Date: 01/05/12