[lit-ideas] Is Hoho a loan word?

  • From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 08:14:08 -0800

The closest to "hoho" seems to be the owl hoot; however none of that
addresses the interesting coincidence that the most prominent and powerful
Indian presence in the American Northwest used the term "hoho" for approval.
Could this be a "loan word" that retains but this limited value?  




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On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:53 AM, Walter C. Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx> wrote:

Don't know about Santa, but I've never met a Russian, German or French
that went "cockle-doodle-doo." In our house, they go "kee-kee-ree-kee."

Celebrating difference,

Walter O

Quoting Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> JL,
> Santa Claus goes "hoho," but does he do that throughout Europe and South
> America or just in North America, and did this term perhaps come from the
> Iroquois of New York who for a time were the most powerful force in our
> North East?
> In a footnote in The Conspiracy of Pontiac, Francis Parkman writes "In the
> year 1745, August Gottlieb Spangenburg, a bishop of the United Brethren,
> spent several weeks in Onandaga, and frequently attended the great Council
> [of all the Iroquois Nations and tribes].  The council-house was built of
> bark.  On each side six seats were placed, each containing six persons.
> one was admitted besides the members of the council, except a few, who
> particularly honored.  If one rose to speak, all the rest sat in profound
> silence, smoking their pipes.  The speaker uttered his words in a singing
> tone, always rising a few notes at the close of each sentence.  Whatever
> pleasing to the council was confirmed by all with the word Nee, or Yes.
> And, at the end of each speech, the whole company joined in applauding the
> speaker by calling Hoho. . ."
> Lawrence

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