We had wanted to go to the Truman Library to watch the debate and hear what the the 'experts' were going to say afterwards (UMKC debate people/some media attorney, etc.) as Ben has asked about learning about such things...but after an evening of a five mile walk and then his taekwondo practice, plus a social studies test to study for, we decided to just watch it at home. (we are training for his 10 mile backpacking campout coming up--he's not that big and so we decided that a bit of training would be in order. Since I had stopped exercising a while ago, it has been really good for me, too. And Sparky, the dog, is in doggie heaven...<g>) The American Library Association offers a video by him and has had Arch Lustberg (media trainer) speak at some of its annual conferences--and he is very very good at explaining some of the things that happen during media interviews/debates. So, having heard him in person and having used Arch's videos in training for my own library programmers, I was able to talk about some of the techniques that would influence people...As Arch has said, the key is NOT to try to change the 'decided' minds--but those of the undecided. And, to use the 'open face' and emotional words--as well as avoiding 'buzz words' if you don't want to be associated with them--and to say the buzz words if you do... and all Bush was able to do was to say what words he wanted (apparently desperately) to be remembered...) BUT...John Kerry was able to counter with several thoughtful and catchy statements(important when one recognizes that over 90% of the world only thinks/remembers what is catchy ... sad to say but so so true...) AND what was most fascinating to me was the reaction to me when I got to work today. I was about the ONLY person in my building at the time (we are a large library system--but I work in our headquarters with about 350 others) who was appalled at our going to war against Iraq. (for so so many reasons...) When I got to work this morning the first thing I was greeted with was 'Did you watch the debate?" and then...discussion. They also all know that I (sad to say <wry look>) voted for Bush and many of them did not ... BUT I have been agast at his presidency when they have been not... and so...several all told me that they thought of me and what I had said during that time (i.e. Excuse me, is bin Laden in Iraq? Why don't we finish what we started?...and with Kerry having pointed that out to George Bush [who stammered when he said that he knew who caused 9-11...)...and his wondering what had happened to bin Laden...apparently that was an impact. Because of the economy, I think they were already going to vote for Kerry (all of them really like John Edwards...Missouri's Man, I think <g>), but it was the FIRST time any of them have even SPOKEN of Iraq and its mess to me since Bush decided to enter there. The first time...and they were sweet to me about it---face-saving, of course, but John Kerry has given them that direction...for they, too, I think, were misled and willing to trust someone who theoretically had intelligence (I, we all know, have trust issues, so I look more closely at stuff...which they all know and which they had a hard time with at the time...) My siblings...well, I figure that one of my sibings is probably in charge of the project that Kerry wants to cut and that is why they are all so freaked out at the thought of his being elected. I had not really been able to understand where their emotions were coming from--but actually, it DOES seem like it is like those even in the social service/human service fields who freak out whenever there is a project that really really makes a difference (there used to be a bunch of us who puzzled over that freaking out until one of us figured out that it was just that the rest of them couldn't understand that there was LOTS of room for improvement and that they would still have job if things became 'okay'...) and so...I do not know (it is all speculation...) but I wonder... Two teachers asked my child for our email. I think I will see if our suburb wants to have a groupie/meet-up party at my house for one of the upcoming debates (none of us, including me, will drive to where the debate parties are located---too far and we have to pass through two Interstate barriers <g> to get there. I never USED to be a suburbanite <g> but I fear as I have gotten older that driving that far is harder...esp at night...) We meet (Ben and I) with an undecided family tomorrow (the dad and son are working with him on basketball techniques---) before we go work for the Kerry phone banks. I wonder what they will say the debate did for them (we had had a really candid talk about a month ago and they were totally undecided...) Arch Lustberg would say that any debate is for the undecided. I think we need to remember that... Late at night and all...but sending all the best of the best wishes, Marlena ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html