In a message dated 7/31/2004 5:31:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, goya@xxxxxxx writes: The statements "Kings of France are bald" and "The=20 king of France is bald" may be equivalent *from a truth-functional=20 viewpoint*, because they are both predications. However, not even=20 Russell would have been wacko enough to suggest, as jlsperanza does,=20 that the latter of these phrases implies that "something like the king=20= of France exists". Predication is one thing, existence another.=20 Likewise, you cannot get from =93African languages are x", to "there=20 exists something like the African language", anymore than you can get=20 from the true proposition "all unicorns are white" to the false=20 propositions "unicorns exist" or "some unicorn exists". ---- Thanks to M. Chase, and to R. Paul for correcting M. Chase. Indeed, the 'wacko' one was Meinong -- a German, etc. --. In Russellian (and Gricean) parlance, while"The king of France is not bald" _implicates_ that there is a king of France (due to the word 'not', not to the fact that we know France is a Republic), "The king of France _is_ bald" certainly _implies_ it (i.e. that there is a king of France). (v. Grice, "Presupposition and Conversational Implicature", in Studies in the Way of Words, Harvard). But back to 'the African language': M. Chase answers: >>Do you speak any African languages? >Well, I'm learning Egyptian. There is a sense in which we can say that Egyptian is indeed _the_ African language (_par excellence_). Ergo: 'the African language' = Egyptian. A purist would perhaps object at this point that there's no such thing as _the_ African language (let alone anything as reasonably thinking that Egyptian is _it_), but that's neither here nor there: the crux is that there _is_ a legitimate, colloquial use of the definite description, "the African language" to refer to "Egyptian": Cf. The African language M. Chase thinks is _the_ African language" Oddly, this becomes otiose (and quasi-tautological) when expanded: Egyptian is the African language that M. Chase thinks is the African language" I note "quasi-tautological", because M. Chase can be wrong -- or think things differently. A still different, current among historical linguists, legitimate use of "the African language" is the definite description used to refer (attributively and predicatively) to the Ur-African language -- a proto version of Swahili, but with much more declensions--, out of which _all_ (current) other varieties of the African language can be shown to have sprung (cf. "M. Chase speaks French, therefore he speaks Indo-European", or "JL speaks Spanish, therefore he speaks Latin"). Cheers, JL ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html