[lit-ideas] Re: In Grice's Name
- From: Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 21:00:25 +0100 (BST)
Unfortunately Robert's quotation is not given any commentary so that we might
be enlightened as to whether W means more than merely the following:
'I' does not name a person: hence we do not say 'My name is I' etc.
'I' may refer to a person: e.g. 'I am a person not a machine, Mr. Turing'.
If something more profound or interesting is afoot we should perhaps be told.
In particular, if W is denying that 'I' may refer to a person just as 'there'
may refer to a place (on the face of it W doesn't deny they may so refer).
Thus the Crow did not 'name the killer' so much as admit he was the killer by
referring to the killer as 'I'.
Donal
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From: "Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx" <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx>
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2012, 18:59
Subject: [lit-ideas] In Grice's Name
Grice on unnaming and unnecessity.
In a message dated 6/25/2012 6:35:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rpaul@xxxxxxxx writes:
Wittgenstein says, §410, '"I" doesn't name a person, nor "here" a place,
and "this" is not a name, but they are connected with names...'
On the other hand:
The Wren: Who killed Cock Robin?
The Crow: I did.
Later on:
The Sparrow (to the Wren): Did the Crow name the killer?
OBVIOUS ANSWER:
The Wren: "Yes, he did.
Wittgensteinian Wren: "No, he didn't. He said that he had killed Cock
Robin. His actual words were, "I did". But as Witters says in section 410, "I"
does not name a person.
The Sparrow: Or a bird.
Cheers,
Speranza
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