In a message dated 4/7/2004 3:47:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx writes: But I don't see how this could be taken to excuse the crime or to suggest that it never happened. Many of the West's most valuable notions -- science, reason, empiricism, medicine, a nonkingly legal system, philosophy, democracy -- are of Greek origin. Most of the intolerant, divisive, retrograde notions in the West come from the ancient near eastern cultures. Where Greek thought encouraged individual inquiry, the influence of ancient near eastern thinking always involved recourse to various forms of authority. Remember that it was the Stoics who coined the term "universe" and "nature" and who advocated equality of the sexes and an end to slavery, several centuries BC. Whenever we view the world as an artifact that can be exploited and used up because some celestial boss says so, we are victim of those ancient superstitions. Using the biblical account as inspiration for ethnic hatred is just more of the same sunstroke madness that plagues people throughout the world. Maybe the time will come when humanity will reassess the value of appropriating religious authoritarianism in the three Western religions. Then again, maybe our sunstruck bad-daddy religions will kill us all before we can shed them. My time has not yet come, Zarathustra ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html