[lit-ideas] Re: Gun control
- From: "Lawrence Helm"<lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:07:08 +0000
Ah ha! You aren't interested in controlling the Chos of the U.S. are you? I
offered a readily accomplishable solution to the Chos: Make the Police, Social
Service, and Medical profession register them and let the gun sellers have
access to that data. But you don't really care about Cho, do you? You are
interested in pursuing your pacifistic fantasy.
There are already laws on the books against the illegal use of guns. Does that
stop criminals from using them? of course not.
There are laws against felons possessing guns. Does that stop felons from
possessing them? Of course not.
As a lurker wisely said, "Hmmm....large fines for being caught with a gun:
"Lower class - no effect - no way to pay anyway
"middle class - would ruin their life financially - forget about defending
yourself, can't afford it
"wealthy elite - who cares, they can afford private security
"super wealthy - can get away with anything as the fines are insignificant.
"Why do leftists always want to use capitalistic methods to establish control
over others?"
I don't know, lurker. They have a skewed view of reality and have no
sanity-checks with which to judge it nor any logic with which to carry it out
to its ultimate consequences. They blather and whine, and if that was all they
did they would be no more of a nuisance than a car alarm that goes off and no
one pays attention to, but they sometimes make really stupid laws which make it
increasingly difficult to deal with one of the consequences of their ideology:
people like Cho.
Lawrence
------------Original Message------------
From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, Apr-19-2007 9:35 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Gun control
How many times, Lawrence, has your house been broken into and you shot the
intruder? How many times have you saved your life or those of your loved ones
by brandishing your guns? We can get rid of the damn things. Every single one
of them. Make owning one so expensive no one can afford them. Melt then down
and build enormous statures to Gandhi and Martin Luther King. We don't let
people have bazookas or howitzers or rocket propelled granades -- some do, I
know -- why then do we allow any weapon that's made to kill? Hunters? No one
needs to hunt for their food anymore. It's insanity. It's a sickness. I'll
bet you'd get rid of your guns if there was a $50,000 penalty for each weapon
you're found with. 2nd offense, $50,000 plus 5 years in prison. The cost to
society is too damn high to allow people this fetish.
Mike Geary
if you think you need a gun, you need a psychiatrist.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Helm
To: Lit-Ideas
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 10:18 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Gun control
Are the British safe from violence as a result of their restrictive gun laws?
And if not utterly safe at least safer than citizens in the U.S.? It wouldn't
appear so to me after a brief Google search:
http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2007/01/crime-in-uk-versus-crime-in-us.html
Even if the numbers were comparable, and they don't seem to be, and you had the
same chance of being injured by violent crime whether or not you owned a gun,
it seems somewhat ingrained in the non-Europeanized portions of the U.S. that
it would be more honorable to go down fighting than to present one's neck to
the criminal like an obedient lamb.
Lawrence
ps:
I wonder about certain aspects of these statistics, e.g., if a criminal breaks
into my house and I shoot him, does that count as a violent crime? If I kill
him before he kills me, how does that show up in the statistics?
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