[lit-ideas] Re: Geary's Infallibility
- From: Mike Geary <gearyservice@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:04:38 -0500
"However if not forced..." should be: "However I'm not forced..."
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Mike Geary <gearyservice@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I've not put much stock in Papal infallibility for lo these last 50 years.
> However if not forced thereby to live without infallibility -- the Supreme
> Court is infallible when it issues a decision regarding the
> Constitutionality of any question brought before it. It's word is final
> and as such is without error. That does not mean that it cannot reverse
> itself in a later ruling. Infallibility, it turns out, doesn't mean "free
> from error" but "we have spoken, eat shit if you don't like it."
>
> I am infallible in this opinion.
> J Michael Geary
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:01 PM, <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> We are discussing Papal's (and indeed Popper's) infallibility.
>>
>> The Wikipedia entry reads:
>>
>> "a dogma of the Catholic Church which states that, in virtue of the
>> promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope is preserved from the possibility of
>> error
>> "when, in the exercise of his office as shepherd and teacher of all
>> Christians, in virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, he defines a
>> doctrine
>> concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church".
>>
>> In a message dated 9/24/2013 12:59:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> _omarkusto@yahoo.com_ (mailto:omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx) comments:
>>
>> "This seems to be tautologically true in the context of Catholic faith
>> since the Pope is considered to be the supreme authority who defines the
>> Catholic doctrine, hence he cannot, by definition, err on doctrine. The
>> only
>> instance that could conceivably falsify this would be if two Popes issued
>> contradictory statements on matters of doctrine, or if the same Pope
>> issued
>> different statements at different times."
>>
>> I'm not so sure I'm ready to use 'tautological' to issues having to do
>> with
>> morals. Perhaps
>>
>> "Every man should do his duty" is ETHICALLY tautologous.
>>
>> But it seems best to restrict 'tautological' to assertive vacuities like
>> "It is raining or not".
>>
>> Or not.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Speranza
>>
>>
>>
>>
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