I've not put much stock in Papal infallibility for lo these last 50 years. However if not forced thereby to live without infallibility -- the Supreme Court is infallible when it issues a decision regarding the Constitutionality of any question brought before it. It's word is final and as such is without error. That does not mean that it cannot reverse itself in a later ruling. Infallibility, it turns out, doesn't mean "free from error" but "we have spoken, eat shit if you don't like it." I am infallible in this opinion. J Michael Geary On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:01 PM, <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> wrote: > We are discussing Papal's (and indeed Popper's) infallibility. > > The Wikipedia entry reads: > > "a dogma of the Catholic Church which states that, in virtue of the > promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope is preserved from the possibility of > error > "when, in the exercise of his office as shepherd and teacher of all > Christians, in virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, he defines a > doctrine > concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church". > > In a message dated 9/24/2013 12:59:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > _omarkusto@yahoo.com_ (mailto:omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx) comments: > > "This seems to be tautologically true in the context of Catholic faith > since the Pope is considered to be the supreme authority who defines the > Catholic doctrine, hence he cannot, by definition, err on doctrine. The > only > instance that could conceivably falsify this would be if two Popes issued > contradictory statements on matters of doctrine, or if the same Pope > issued > different statements at different times." > > I'm not so sure I'm ready to use 'tautological' to issues having to do with > morals. Perhaps > > "Every man should do his duty" is ETHICALLY tautologous. > > But it seems best to restrict 'tautological' to assertive vacuities like > "It is raining or not". > > Or not. > > Cheers, > > Speranza > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html >