[lit-ideas] FW: Re: ye olde political mindset
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "lit-ideas" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:45:38 -0400
Sorry, Ursula, this isn't directed at you, not at all.
> Heart, right, in the form of mountains of skulls and exhortations to
> confine and torture the bastards, in secret no less, even if literally
> something like over 85% of the prisoners who were in Abu Ghraib were just
> regular Iraqis. Gitmo is anybody's guess. Read Ron Susskind. That's how
> this administration won hearts and minds after they blew off the war.
Then
> the Americans can't figure out why they're hated. Ron Suskind and Tom
> Ricks should be mandatory reading for all Americans, except Americans
can't
> tear themselves away from Mel Gibson.
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Ursula Stange <Ursula@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: 8/4/2006 8:22:13 AM
> > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: ye olde political mindset
> >
> > I'm glad you wrote "so-called" because that's not their agenda at all.
> > That's just the sugar-coating they sold to their ignorant public.
> > (Americans do love their junk food.) But you're right. Logic without
> > heart is no good either. Star trek exemplifies this, of course. It
> > was always Kirk's middle way which won the day. Spock was too logical.
> > Bones was too emotional. Speaking of Star Trek, isn't it curious that
> > in the 60s, we had Mr. Spock trying to erase everything human (and
> > therefore flawed) from his makeup. And then in the 80s, we had Data
> > trying to become human.
> >
> > Ursula, too tired already at eight in the morning to tackle your line
> > about freedom coming through democracy...
> >
> > Phil Enns wrote:
> >
> > >It seems to me that the last thing one would want is a logical
response.
> > >After all, isn't the so-called Neocon agenda a thoroughly rational
> > >approach to politics? Everyone wants freedom, freedom comes through
> > >democracy, ergo everyone wants democracy, so lets give them democracy
> > >and they will love us.
> > >
> > >
> >
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