It's actually RFID's. I searched RDIF and it came up RFID. It's an established technology and is for sale by IBM among others. Wikipedia has a discussion of it. I have company tomorrow, so I'm busy today. I'm always busier on days when I'm not working. I'd rather work sometimes. I'm dragging my feet, gotta get started. Bye. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Amago To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 12/30/2005 9:12:43 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Calling all computer gurus & lawyers (Andreas?) I read something about RDIF's (can't remember what that stands for and I think those are the initials). They're laser readers sort of like bar codes only much more, what's the word, intense. They can be put in everything from passports to store shelves (not products, but shelves) to monitor what people pick up and what they don't and to automatically track what shelves were going bare and so on. In fact, Walmart has actually used them. When there was an outcry that people were being spied on, they said they had notified people that testing was in progress. The problem with putting them into passports is that terrorists can pick out the Americans with a simple handheld reader because they're not yet encrypted. It's cradle to grave tracking, not yet widespread but the technology is there, the way zebra readers were in the 70's. I can't remember where I read it. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 12/30/2005 5:59:04 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Calling all computer gurus & lawyers (Andreas?) http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/12/29/spy.agency.privacy.ap/index.html Is this total hype? I'm familiar with cookies, as I thought everyone was. Tell me this Orwellian scenario is unfounded. Julie Krueger thinking phrases like "police state"