[lit-ideas] Re: Elementary Propositon, Atomic Proposition
- From: "Michael Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 11:20:14 -0500
Thanks to JL for his contribution. 'Atomic' would have to be updated to
'Quark', I suppose -- or perhaps to 'String', but I don't understand any of
that stuff. My opinion is my forte, and I try to stay within the realm of
my expertise.
Ava Tarr
Memphis Institute of Telepathy
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Elementary Propositon, Atomic Proposition
> In a message dated 4/17/2004 10:34:46 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> Much to Donal's chagrin, I'm with him here. If you can ask "what is?" of
> any element of an EP and get an answer, then the EP ain't EPal. I suggest
> that 'is' is the only EP. Bill Clinton would disagree and maybe Monica,
> too. But I don't know how to analyse 'is', and I think that's the final
> word on that.
> Mike Geary
> proud to be of service
>
> ---
>
> For what it's worth, there is, apparently, no collocation "elementary
> proposition" in the OED. There are a few quotes for "ATOMIC proposition",
though.
>
> I append below. I guess Wittgenstein would distinguish between 'elementary
> proposition' and 'atomic proposition', but I'm not sure (Be reminded he
spake
> German).
>
> Cheers,
>
> JL
>
> ----
>
> From the OED
>
> 'atomic'.
>
>
> In modern philosophy: unanalysable, irreducible, ultimate, essential;
also,
> of a sentence: without conjunctions or other connective words.
>
> Cites -- as it applies to 'proposition':
>
>
> 1912 L. WITTGENSTEIN Let. (to Russell) in Notebks. 1914-16 (1961) 120,
>
> I believe that our problems can be traced down to the atomic propositions.
>
> 1918 B. RUSSELL in Monist 523
>
> An atomic proposition is one which does mention actual particulars, not
> merely describe them but actually name them.
>
> 1922 tr. Wittgenstein's Tract. Log.-Phil. 31
>
> An atomic fact is a combination of objects (entities, things).
>
> 1929 WITTGENSTEIN in Knowledge, Exper. & Realism (Aristotelian Soc.
Suppl.,
> Vol. IX) 163
>
> The propositions which represent this ultimate connexion of terms I call,
> after B. Russell, atomic propositions.
>
> 1933 Mind XLII. 38
>
> Similar to the species of geometry, we might have in logic â?~a logic of
atomic
> propositionsâ?T and â?~a logic of molecular propositionsâ?T.
>
> 1948 B. RUSSELL Human Knowl. II. ix. 145 We give the name â?~atomic
sentenceâ?T
> to one not containing logical words.
>
> 1956 G. RYLE in Ayer et al. Revol. Philos. 10
>
> The analysis of compound propositions into their simple elements, the
> conjunctionless or â?~atomicâ?T propositions.
>
>
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