[lit-ideas] Re: Drei Kleine Nachtmusiken
- From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:47:43 EST
In a message dated 3/5/2009 11:31:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Say it ain't so, Joe.
Mike Geary
stunned that JL could have been wrong.
now looking for a new hero.
----
Well, there are five caveats:
--- I'm not sure he is right about High German. I find the phrase confusing.
Does it have to do with the field geology? I never knew. vs. Low German. Or
is it mere north vs. south. But then, if it's field geology, I find it
derogatory, and why wouldn't the high Germans then be the hillbillies?
It seems obvious that 'klein' means 'clean' in all types of German _except_
the one C. Bruce is now familiar with, the "High" one, yet he patronisingly
says, "In German, 'klein' means 'little'".
---- He does say that one can use 'musiken', but this bit I found is
jocular. It's written by someone born in 1953 (and I left in blanks to complete
with
his dates of death). So it's merely a 'charade' as we say on the Mozart
thing.
----- etc.
---- If this is a set of three pieces, one is in doubt as to what's 'clean'
about it. Each one is clean? Or the whole set taken collectively? If the
latter, I cannot use 'clean' for that, for it's very long (ditto for Mozart's
thing).
--- It's also pretty silly to force a player to perform this _at night_. So
the whole thing must be jocular even in the vernacular.
Consider:
A: I'll play a little night music.
B: I'm a little drunk
What do you mean, a little, you are totally intoxicated.
"I'm a little drunk". The 'a' applies to 'little', not to drunk. It does
_not_ mean: "I'm a small drunkard". It's otiose having to show these basic
things to anglo-native speakers.
As for the 'eine', I did mention that it's not the same as "a". "One little
music" is the strict translation of Mozart's thing.
Cf. the oddity of saying "I'm one little drunk". "Half one!"
You are not one bit drunk.
* Yes, I am one bit drunk
* No, I'm two bits drunk.
C. Bruce should play around with other possibilities instead of being
patronising about things.
Cheers,
JL
Cheers,
JL
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