FUNCTIONALISM: The Western Tradition in Oxford McCreery re: idea -- expression of idea. >Pondering the conversation about what goes on before we speak, I note <that two possibilities are in play. In philosophical parlance, the possibilities seem to be: BEHAVIOURISM: There are no ideas -- only patterns of behaviour. So it's the expression of alleged psychological stuff that matters. 'Analytic behaviourism' made rough American behaviourism accepted in Oxford by Gilbert Ryle with his _The concept of mind_. (Not the Western tradition since the founder, Watso n, was not a public-school boy). FUNCTIONALISM. Usually ascribed to Aristotle. Made reasonable to Anglo-American-Argentine ears by Grice in his "Method in philosophical psychology" (in his book, _The Conception of Value_, Oxford). A psychological _state_ is a function (in the Turing sense of the expression) of two variables: the perceptual input (sensory) and the behavioural output (the babble). The Western tradition _par excellence_ because it is fully developed by the greatest author within the Classical Tradition of the Best Brand of Philosophy, Aristotle. MENTALISM. Not known in Oxford -- Common in the Continent. There is _mental substance_ (res cogitans, in Descartes's lingo). This is structured as a language, and may eventually get expressed in 'verbal' or 'exterior language'. Not the Western tradition. Possibly Judaeo-Hebraic in nature, or from some (who knows) some Teutonic source of animism. Cheers, JL J. L. Speranza, Esq. Town: Calle Arenales 2021, Piso 5, St. 8, La Recoleta C1124AAE, Buenos Aires, Argentina. Tel. 54 11 4824 4253 Fax 54 221 425 9205 Country: St. Michael Hall, Calle 58, No. 611, La Plata B1900 BPY Provincia de Buenos Aires, Argentina. Tel. 54 221 425 7817 Fax 54 221 425 9205 http://www.stmichaels.com.ar jls@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx jlsperanza@xxxxxxx http://www.netverk/~jls.htm ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com