> > "Beilaufig gesprochen: Die Gegenstande sind farblos > -- seit 1727."=20 > (Wittgenstein, TLP 2.0232) Apparently, it was Wittgenstein's idea that "Beilaufig gesprochen.." be translated as "Roughly speaking..", which is its meaning in Austria though not in Germany. So exactly how objects lack colour only "roughly speaking" is still perhaps up for grabs. And the quotation is not therefore unequivocal evidence, despite my earlier suggestion to the contrary, that objects are completely colourless in all aspects. Donal London ____________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html