In a message dated 8/4/2004 2:56:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: I have news for JL, not only can he be a part of the Bible Belt but he can have an actual Bible Belt Buckle. http://www.christianlink.com/gifts/biblebuckle/ This is surely more exciting than Marston's issolect... Goddless Communism is to blame for most ellipses.. Before the Supreme Court became a tool of the Commies and said it was OK to burn our flag, and to keep to Christ from attending public schools and crecheing out on government property, well, we knew who we were then -- we were God fearing Biblebelters! Who knows who we are now? ---- Okay. I was confused -- but no longer. In a previous note, it was suggested that perhaps "God bless you", as a reply to "Atchoo" had originated with Pope Gregory the Great: _http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mgesundheit.html_ (http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mgesundheit.html) Pope Gregory the Great (540-604 AD) ascended to the Papacy just in time for the start of the plague (his successor succumbed to it). Gregory (who also invented the ever-popular Gregorian chant) called for litanies, processions and unceasing prayer So it occurred to me -- following a suggestion by J. Krueger -- that it could be possible that the idiom originally meant: A: Atchoo B: Bless you. (Short for: Pope Gregory Bless you). -- the dogma being that it's only the pope (rather than God self) who _can_ _bless_ mortals. This posed a problem for the subjunctive: "God bless you", being subjunctive, is easy to explain "Let God bless you". But it seemed otiose (to me) that if it is the _pope_ who blesses you that his reference also be subjunctival. Marston's issolect fails to make any reference to Pope Gregory, so I thought I would ask. Thank you for your reply, Cheers, JL ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html