Wager: "One way to read the "apple" part of the story is that it's not a "fall" as much as it is a "climb."" Mmm. "that brought woe into the world", goes Milton. If it was a climb, how come the first offspring to come out of her uterus included a fraticide? There must be a moral there somewhere. Cheers, JL ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com