On 30 Apr 2004 at 14:23, John McCreery wrote: > Still, the Europeans who slaughtered each other in the name of > religion during the Thirty-Years War and, again, in the name of > nationalist ideologies during WWI and WWII have become a good deal > less obsessive in these regards. Ditto for most Japanese. "in the name of"? are u implying that those who believed they sacrificed their life for their nations were fooled? hm... interesting. what about those who die for the american nation/values/traditions etc etc in current epoch? -t -- Torgeir Fjeld torgfje2@xxxxxxxxxx http://home.no.net/torgfje/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html