In a message dated 11/12/05 6:01:05 AM Central Standard Time, goya@xxxxxxx writes: What is a bit surprising - at least for those who continue to hope there are some limits to human duplicity - are the grounds he gave. We must stay the course in Iraq, the pres. says, because if we don't the Iraqis might develop weapons of mass destruction. I deliberately missed his Veteran's Day speech. I swam laps for the first time since my 4 broken ribs, instead (and I'm paying for it today -- never assume you can do what you could do 5 months ago, with no build-up). *Please* tell me he may have perhaps merely implied the above, and didn't *actually* say that. Julie Krueger eating advil