Only a test on a machine without the developer tools is valid. Mine has these tools of course. I've had to guess what might be on a machine without them. Thanks, John -- John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft, Inc. http://www.abilitiessoft.com Madison, Wisconsin USA Developing software for people with disabilities For a description of the software, to download it and links to project pages go to http://www.abilitiessoft.com