OK I finally have libloouis installed and working now we face a now issue. I have a web application in PHP which takes text and passes it to file2brl everything works fin form the command line when I enter it from the shell /usr/local/bin/file2brl -f /Library/WebServer/Documents/cbtbc/BrailleBlaster/programData/liblouisutdml/lbu_files/ink.cfg '/tmp/1353932384.txt' '/tmp/1353932384.brf' However if I have PHP system run the same command I get a return value of 1 and no brf file is generated in /tmp Any ideas out there? Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media Association for the Blind of WA - Guide Dogs WA PO Box 101, Victoria Park WA 6979 | 61 Kitchener Ave, Victoria Park WA 6100 Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 | www.guidedogswa.com.au Tel: 307-224-4022 (North America) Email: greg.kearney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Email: gkearney@xxxxxxxxx