[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Compressing whitespace on a node by node basis in LibLouisUTDML
- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:33:02 -0500
Usually when words are run together it is a mistake. As a reader I want to see
the words separated and contracted properly. Running words together can make
very messy Grade 2.
John
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 08:18:38PM +0000, Michael Whapples wrote:
> I think this is coming back to a fairly recent bug report of not being
> able to achieve certain spacing when emphasis is used.
>
> I don't think any action was taken over that issue, despite the
> reasonable suggestion that may be liblouisutdml should handle whitespace
> at the beginning and end of nodes as defined for the XHTML standard.
>
> Using \s in the third column in my mind is totally unacceptable as it
> prevents one from ever having the two words run together, even when its
> the user's desire and they have followed the document format standard
> for achieving it.
>
> PS. I think there are Braille notations for part emphasised words, just
> don't know them off hand, those cases are so rare one never really meets it.
>
> Michael Whapples
> On 12/03/2014 19:39, John Gardner wrote:
> >John, this is very strange. How can one distinguish am emphasized letter
> >or
> >phrase that is part of a word from emphasized words or phrases unless
> >spaces
> >are explicitly indicated somehow? If one writes in html and leaves out
> >spaces between two text spans, those two text spans have no space between
> >them in the output.
> >
> >John G
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J.
> >Boyer
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:23 PM
> >To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Compressing whitespace on a node by
> >node
> >basis in LibLouisUTDML
> >
> >I put the \s in dtbook.sem to keep words from running together. It causes a
> >space to be placed before the text in the em tag. Without it there are a
> >lot
> >of words run together in Bookshare files. That
> >is messy, because it makes liblouis think that there is an ialicized part
> >of
> >a word. I don't know if it is necessary in nimas.sem .
> >
> >nemeth.sem uses the third column a lot. You can see how it is used by
> >looking at transcribe_math in transcribe_math.c .
> >
> >John
> >
> >On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 06:18:07PM +0000, Keith Creasy wrote:
> >>John.
> >>
> >>Yes, it seems simple that \s means a single space but when it's in the
> >line of a semantic action file such as :
> >>Italic em \s
> >>
> >>What is the effect? A single space is added every time the <em> element is
> >encountered? This seems unnecessary. Maybe it isn't actually needed. I am
> >assuming someone put it there for a reason but I can't think what it might
> >be.
> >>
> >>I'd suggest these be removed from nimas.sem and epub.sem until we find a
> >reason to add them back.
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J.
> >Boyer
> >>Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 2:12 PM
> >>To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Compressing whitespace on a node by
> >node basis in LibLouisUTDML
> >>What would be the criteria for suppressing whitespace only for certain
> >nodes? The compression is done in insert_text in transcriber.c
> >>\s means a single space, just as it does in liblouis.
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 05:58:27PM +0000, Michael Whapples wrote:
> >>>Hello,
> >>>Is it possible to get liblouisutdml to compress the whitespace only
> >>>for certain nodes in a document?
> >>>
> >>>Also what is \s meant to do when it is in the third column of a
> >>>liblouisutdml semantic action file? I have gathered it has something
> >>>to do with spacing but cannot locate any documenting of this.
> >>>
> >>>Michael Whapples
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>For a description of the software, to download it and links to project
> >>>pages go to http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> >>--
> >>John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft, Inc.
> >>http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> >>Madison, Wisconsin USA
> >>Developing software for people with disabilities
> >>
> >>For a description of the software, to download it and links to project
> >pages go to http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> >>For a description of the software, to download it and links to
> >>project pages go to http://www.abilitiessoft.com
>
> For a description of the software, to download it and links to
> project pages go to http://www.abilitiessoft.com
--
John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
Abilitiessoft, Inc.
http://www.abilitiessoft.com
Madison, Wisconsin USA
Developing software for people with disabilities
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