If you have tried the latest update of liblouisutdml you will have found that it requests paper width and paper height even when formatFor utd has not been set. This bug is now fixed in the repository. John -- John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft, Inc. http://www.abilitiessoft.com Madison, Wisconsin USA Developing software for people with disabilities For a description of the software, to download it and links to project pages go to http://www.abilitiessoft.com