[LRflex] Re: The Silk String Quartet
- From: Richard Ward <ilovaussiesheps@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:38:52 -0700 (PDT)
Greetings Again Marc,
I will have to agree with you about the generalization that higher grain
&/or noise with the higher iso's in cameras or in films can be a real detriment
to 'absolute' image quality, but there are always trade offs of one kind or
another in the creation of a great image and one must be careful of the images
one denies oneself the potential to create with blanket condemnations of higher
iso's and higher speed films. Coming from my own creative perspectives and
imaging interests, trading away billboard print sizes or grain free images for
the ability to reach into places and moments and situations that I wouldn't
otherwise be able to explore photographically is simply one of the trade offs
inherent to photography as a craft. I will also say that the sensor size
tradeoff inherent to the digilux family of cameras means that the noise at
higher iso's is much much worse than the bigger sensors in the dSLR families.
The imaging benefits of bigger negs from
before have come home to roost in the imaging sensors of today - the
technology and physics for it being true vary a little from film to digital,
but the axiom holds fairly well nonetheless.
Now having said that!
While I am fairly comfortable pushing the iso up in my dSLR, I would probably
avoid it at all costs in a camera with a sensor smaller than the 1.5/1.6 family
of dSLR chips. The color noise and random image noise in general is almost
unbearable to me!
Richard
Hello Richard,
Since I "discovered" the RAW file, and its possibilities,
I don't use no more the JPG ones.
So, I supposed at high ISO, JPG would be even worse
than RAW.
I generally don't use high ISO, because the
typical grain of films, and noise in digital files.
So, I'm very grateful with this information.
I've to try again, from these same RAW files, and
noise reduction tools !
Thank you so much, Richard.
Marc
----- Original Message -----
>From: Richard Ward
>To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:29
> PM
>Subject: [LRflex] Re: The Silk String
> Quartet
>
>
>Hello
> Marc,
> I can't speak specifically to your d3, but generally
> speaking some variation of software noise reduction is applied to the jpegs
> when shooting these smaller cameras at higher iso's that wouldn't be applied
> to the RAW files. You would have to experiment to confirm this for your
> specific camera, obviously. The upside of this is that when processing the
> RAW
> file you can choose whether to noise reduce the image or not and you can
> reach
> for a range of noise reduction filters on the market for Photoshop and other
> programs and fine tune how much or how little mucking around the image they
> do
> in order to get the job done. The in camera algorythyms can sometimes get a
> bit brutal, which is generally effective, but it can't know whether it needs
> a
> little or a lot.
>
>Richard
>
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From: Marc Dufour
> <foto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 8:32:10
> AM
>Subject: [LRflex] Re: The
> Silk String Quartet
>
>
>Salut Philippe,
>Thank you so much, amigo. If you want, I can send you
> some music from them.
>About the high ISO, I've to say the JPG file is cleaner
> than the RAW one (with more noise).
>I just realized it after upload the 3 first pictures
> :-(
>Amitiés de Castellón sous la pluie.
>Marc
>
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