Hello, I've been lurking on the list for a good while and have gleaned some good knowledge as an observer and I thank everyone for that. I have a dilemma as I am in a position to upgrade my Leica 70-210 F4.0 to some thing a little better (although I wouldn't mind some comment on this lens as well) I have heard that the 80-200 f4.0 is a great lens and great value and it seems to be a substantial upgrade on the 70-210, however I am also considering the 180mm f2.8 prime as I enjoy shallow depth of field in my work and sometimes will use the focal length in low light situations. As well as the 70-210 I have a 35-70 Elmarit, a 50mm Summicron and a 90mm Summicron. Not sure which way to go with the choice of 180 prime or 80-200 zoom. Any comments/advice would be appreciated. Cameras I can mount the lens on are R5, R7, Digilux 3 via an adapter and interestingly enough a Sigma SD14 with a modified R mount. I purchased the latter after someone on the list mentioned that the Sigma was available with an R mount. I have not been dissapoited with the results. I believe the Foveon sensor is superior to the Bayer variants in most digital platforms, however one does have to live with the crop factor as this is not a full frame sensor. Happy to post some examples for those interested but not sure where to post them. Walter -- Walter Krämer walter.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx walter.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Bus: 03 9854 2468 Mob: 0414 884 965 ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/