Doug, I gave up on the red dots a long time ago. I have the parts "trees" from an old Monogram BMW 635 CSi model car that I built a long time ago. The nice rounded ends can be clipped off and adhered to the lenses and guess what, they are the proper diameter!. Art ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/