It depends :-) Here's what I'd consider: 1. There are only a couple of things the M8.2 offers that you can't upgrade an M8 with: recock control, vulcanite-like covering, all black lettering and black Leica dot. 2. If you don't care about these, you can upgrade an M8 with everything else: quiet shutter, framelines, saphire LCD cover. A new M8.2 comes with a 2 year warranty I believe. A used M8 comes with no warranty. An upgrade to an M8 adds 1 year to the warranty IF the M8 is still under warranty. Question is, if you buy used, can the warranty remaining on the used M8, if any, be transferred. My GUESS is no. So best case is to buy a demo M8 from a dealer (1 year warranty), wait until close to the end of the warranty period and have the upgrades done IF this is less than the cost of an M8.2 AND you don't need the things of an M8.2 that an upgrade can't provide AND you can wait a year to do the upgrades AND the total cost is less (significantly in my opinion) than an M8.2. That's how I would approach the question, buy YMMV :-) Good luck and remember, the only wrong decision is to not by an M8.x :-D Best, Bob Bob Adler Palo Alto, CA rgacpa@xxxxxxxxx http://www.raflexions.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Ric Carter <ricc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Leica Users Group <lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; leica@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 4:51:47 PM Subject: M8 time I think it's M8 time. I really wanted a full frame at photokina. Hi Ho. M8 or M8.2? New or used? Help me in my angst. Ric Carter http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/ricc/ ========================================================= To Unsubscribe: Send email to leica-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. The acknowledgment that you then receive MUST be replied to per instructions. You may also log in to the Web interface to unsubscribe.