[klaatumail] Re: Question- No KK
- From: Wesle Dymoke <wesdym@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 18:59:17 -0800 (PST)
On more: My colleague later pointed me to this Wikipedia link, which gives a
slightly different answer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reel#Motion_picture_terminology
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> From: Wesle Dymoke <wesdym@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: "klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 8:03 PM
>Subject: [klaatumail] Re: Question- No KK
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>Update: I spoke with my former cinema colleague, and he also says 15 minutes
>per distribution reel.
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>> From: Wesle Dymoke <wesdym@xxxxxxxxx>
>>To: "klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:27 PM
>>Subject: [klaatumail] Re: Question- No KK
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>>Former projectionist here..
>>There is no standard quantity of film or time or anything that constitutes a
>>standard 'reel' of motion picture footage. A 'reel' is a nominal term
>>referring to an actual film reel, which can be any size up to the maximum
>>that a given projector can manage. Let me elaborate, and this elaboration may
>>still give you some useful information towards an answer you may find
>>satisfactory.
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>>Modern cinemas use a 'platter' system in which the 'projection reel' is an
>>entire film. I've never used these myself, so I don't know what the upper
>>limit is, but I imagine it must be over one hour. These systems somehow
>>re-reel themselves as they operate, so that they never
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>>In the cinema I worked at, which used equipment typical for commercial
>>cinemas operating in the U.S. from the '60s up through the '80s, we used
>>'over-under' projectors, where the 'feed' reel on the top fed through the
>>projector to the 'takeup' reel on the bottom. Afterwards, the takeup reel
>>would be rapidly rewound back onto the feed reel, to be ready for another
>>show. In this system, which was extremely common, two projectors worked side
>>by side, with a switchover midway through a movie, for a total of up to two
>>full reels per movie. Each reel in this case had a total capacity of about
>>thirty minutes (at eight 35mm frames per second).
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>>The films came to us in 'cans' containing up to eight reels for a whole film,
>>but more typically six. These reels were obviously smaller, and we had to
>>splice them together to go on the larger projection reels. As a standard film
>>of the time was around 90 minutes in length, I think it's very likely that
>>the capacity of each of these smaller distribution reels was (and probably
>>still is) 15 minutes. (6 X 15 = 90; 8 X 15 = 120) From that, 13 distribution
>>reels would also be about right for a three-hour film.
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>>There are surely smaller reels that also fit these same projectors and
>>equipment, and I probably even saw them at some point, but the distributors
>>always brought whatever they had to us, including all trailers, on those same
>>standard reels of about 10" / 25 cm. That would be appropriate, then, for a
>>'one-reeler' of anything under 15 minutes total in play length.
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>>Let me say here that I'm giving you my own hazy memories, and I could be
>>mistaken. I've a friend I can ask who also worked in a cinema, but I don't
>>think he did projection, and may not know.
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>>> From: A F <tnshell40@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: "klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 3:59 PM
>>>Subject: [klaatumail] Question- No KK
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>>>Okay folks, the old movie buff is re-emerging in me and I was wondering if
>>>anyone could point me in the direction of a web site where I can read up on
>>>what constitutes a 'reel' time wise in movies.
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>>>I know old 'one realer' comedies are about 7 minutes - yet two realers can
>>>range from eighteen to 23 minutes (and one Our gang silent is technically a
>>>3 reeler at 25ish minutes). I also saw a movie poster for a 3 hour
>>>silent film in 13 reels.
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>>>When I worked at a movie theater I know that films came either each reel in
>>>their own container and sometimes two reels in one so remembering the
>>>timeing from them is kind of hazy for me. I can also go into many examples
>>>I have heard/read that just seem (to me) contradict each other (including
>>>DVD commentaries).
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>>>IS there a one stop shopping on the web that explains it all? Maybe
>>>different explanations fof different time periods?
>>>
>>>JUST CURIOUS! :P
>>>
>>>Sign me on this one,
>>>
>>>Going Nerdy for Under a Hundred Bucks
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>>>;)
>>>
>>>Alex
>>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/user/100dollarklaatubid
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