Even tho I am a Lennon fan...pretty die-hard as well. I do have to admit that Dave's views are hard to deny. Rarely have I read a commentary so cutting and true. Bravo. Marc T Twitter: marctobolski Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tobolski YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/marctobolski ----- Original Message ---- From: "Bradley, David" <David_Bradley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 8:01:50 AM Subject: [klaatumail] Re: John Lennon The one thing that REALLY bugs the you know what out of me is the way Imagine has become the ideal song for the ideal world. The world he paints in a communist hippy ideal that has no basis in the "peace is the best thing there is" mentality that it's so often associated with. > Imagine there's no Heaven I have a problem with this as a Christian. I have a problem with him implying, or even explicitly saying that there's something BETTER than Heaven. > No hell below us Nothing to hold us accountable for our behavior. > Imagine all the people > Living for today That's today's world. Who cares who gets hurt as long as I'm enjoying life today. > Imagine there's no countries So that we'd all believe exactly the same thing and have the same natural resources and no reason to covet one region of the world over another? Nice thought, but beyond human ability to remake the planet into an all neutral resource that doesn't favor one temperature / region / food crop / need over another. > Nothing to kill or die for If you have nothing that you would be willing to die for, then you have nothing worth living for. > And no religion too Because we know that religion is the root of all evil and not the behavior of humans and the way they practice their beliefs, religious or otherwise. It's easier to place the blame on "religion" in general than on people and the specifics of their behaviors. > Imagine all the people > Living life in peace With what he describes above, there would be no peace. > And the world will be as one Yeah, multiculturalism says ALL ways of life are just as important as YOUR way of life, which is the same as saying NO way of life is important and we can all switch to be whatever the thought of the day requires us to change to. However, then the world wouldn't "be as one" we would be a bunch of catatonic people not trying to better ourselves and with nothing to value. > Imagine no possessions Like a house to live in ? Like property and the connected political entity property "rights" ? Yeah, let me take away what you have worked hard for and we'll ALL be better for it. > No need for greed or hunger Well, if no one has any possessions, we won't possess food, and that will mean hunger. > Imagine all the people > Sharing all the world Instead of working for what we have and being responsible for our own destiny. Whenever I hear the melody of Imagine, I cringe at what it represents and can't bear to listen to it. The hippies are so taken with the image they think they can get the world to resemble that they fail to see the disaster they create while attempting to create that world they imagine. No one needs to accept what I say and agree with it. Your opinion may be different. This is just my own two cents on the topic of John Lennon, and who he was, what he said, and why we can't say he WOULD or WOULD NOT say or feel a certain view. Dave