[JA] Re: Juno's abuse department

  • From: J�rel DD Arbaugh <computerist@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: juno_accmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, no-tag-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:27:29 PDT

}Subject: [JA] Juno's abuse department
}From: carolynstoffel
}Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:41:49 EDT
}
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}
}I remember my father saying, when I was a child, that if steel mills
}could save a half cent - we're talking forty years ago! - a ton in
}production costs, the annual total would be significant because of the
}tonnage produced.
}
}
}So my download takes only a few seconds less. Multiply that by how many
}Juno users?????? Especially when I've seen .dozens. of Juno only
}addresses as multiple recipients and those only a tiny fraction of the
}alphabet.
}

        The communications costs are only higher due to the higher
bandwidth to/from their servers needed to accommodate the spam traffic. 
The storage costs are more significant, and they pass that back to us,
their users, in higher ISP charges.

}
}I still like my idea of being able to return spam to a specific Juno
}address which would in turn send it back to the originator as "invalid
}address". But .I. want to make the decision on what is spam and what
}isn't. Not some automated program that says "Cash" in the subject is
spam
}when maybe I'm doing genealogy on a family named "Cash".
}
}
}
}Carolyn Stoffel

        There are a number of things that the ISP can filter on and
automatically bounce the message.  Among these is to bounce mail
"Received: from localhost " that did not originate within the machine
that is generating that header, or "Received: from localnet" that did not
originate within their local network.  

        If juno really wanted to stop forged spam, then it would only
require setting SMTP to detect incoming forgeries, and the above are easy
to detect.  More advanced detection could also be considered.
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