}Subject: [JA] Juno's abuse department }From: carolynstoffel }Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:41:49 EDT } ... } }I remember my father saying, when I was a child, that if steel mills }could save a half cent - we're talking forty years ago! - a ton in }production costs, the annual total would be significant because of the }tonnage produced. } } }So my download takes only a few seconds less. Multiply that by how many }Juno users?????? Especially when I've seen .dozens. of Juno only }addresses as multiple recipients and those only a tiny fraction of the }alphabet. } The communications costs are only higher due to the higher bandwidth to/from their servers needed to accommodate the spam traffic. The storage costs are more significant, and they pass that back to us, their users, in higher ISP charges. } }I still like my idea of being able to return spam to a specific Juno }address which would in turn send it back to the originator as "invalid }address". But .I. want to make the decision on what is spam and what }isn't. Not some automated program that says "Cash" in the subject is spam }when maybe I'm doing genealogy on a family named "Cash". } } } }Carolyn Stoffel There are a number of things that the ISP can filter on and automatically bounce the message. Among these is to bounce mail "Received: from localhost " that did not originate within the machine that is generating that header, or "Received: from localnet" that did not originate within their local network. If juno really wanted to stop forged spam, then it would only require setting SMTP to detect incoming forgeries, and the above are easy to detect. More advanced detection could also be considered. -- | Computerist. KG6HNO This user is located in California. It is a violation of California law to send unsolicited commercial mail to this user. --- To unsubscribe, send a message to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe juno_accmail" in the body or subject. OR visit //freelists.org ~*~